The New Dare Athletic Fit vs. the 2016/17 Version
Spyder gave these pants a minor update for the 2018 Winter, with changes to the thigh pocket, ventilation, and shell fabric. Below, we show the new version on the left, followed by details on the update.
- Shell Fabric — The new fabric differs from the previous model mostly in the stitching technique. The new fabric is 360º Stretch Poly Broken Herringbone with 20k/20k HydroWEB 2.0 Laminate and Spylon DWR.
- Ventilation — The zippered ventilation is moved from the outer to the inner thighs on the new version, which we expect means improved ventilation.
- Thigh Pocket — The thigh pocket is moved a bit further to the outside of the leg. Hopefully, this makes the pocket contents less restrictive to movement.
Until we get our legs into the latest version, the text below reflects the previous version of this pant. We expect performance to be similar from one year's model to the next, with the most significant improvement likely being the ventilation in new version.
Hands-On Review of the 2016/17 Dare Athletic Fit
The Spyder Dare
is the best-insulated ski pant of all contenders in our fleet.
Cold smoke, cold air, and pants for this cold weather. The Spyder Dare is the best insulated ski pant we've tested, for that narrow part of the market that needs such a thing.
Fit and Comfort
The Spyder Dare
excels in this metric. First, the pants are made of soft, quiet exterior fabric and a smooth silky lining. This alone gives it nearly top marks. Only the Mammut Bormio has softer fabrics
inside and out. As compared to the stiff FlyLow Gear Baker Bibs
, the Spyder fabrics are warm and cozy. Next, the rear bib panel combined with broad, soft suspenders pleases everyone. Most of our test team digs bibs of some sort for weather protection. Some of the team, however, doesn't like the confining nature of full bibs like the Flylow Baker
. The rear-only bib panel of the Spyder pleases 'most everyone, with the protection of bibs and the comfort of pants. The fit of the Dare
is moderate. The Arc'teryx Sabre
fits a little baggier, while the Columbia Bugaboo II Pants
Of the insulated pants we reviewed, this award winner is at the top for offering the most weather protective. First, as compared to the Mammut Bormio
, the external fabric of the Dare
sheds snow and water far better. The fleecy external fabric of the Bormio
is steezy and comfortable, but it catches and holds snow and water. The construction of the Bormio
keeps this moisture outside the membrane and sealed seams, but the captured moisture lends a feeling of cold and damp. The Dare
has smooth face fabric that sheds the water.
The Columbia Bugaboo II
pants have smooth face fabric, but the seams are not sealed. In true poor weather, water gets through the unsealed seams. For these reasons, the Spyder Dare
gets top honors among the insulated pants we tested. Even as compared to the shell pants like the Patagonia Powder Bowl
and The North Face Freedom Pants
, the Dare
holds up fairly well, shedding the warm and wet conditions just fine.
Grey on grey on white. Winter monochrome, courtesy of Spyder clothing and flat Wyoming light. Lead Test Editor Jediah Porter gives it all some depth with an ounce of hard work, testing gear just for your information. No fun was had at all.
Right away, we can divide our test roster into two major warmth categories. The difference in warmth between the insulated pants like the Dare
and the uninsulated ones like the Patagonia SnowShot Pants
or Norrona Lofoten Gore-Tex Pro Pants
is profound. These two categories do not compare much at all to one another. When looking at the insulated pants, however, we note important but subtle differences.
Basically, these differences have to do with amount and thickness of insulation. The Mammut Bormio
has the least insulation, while the Columbia Bugaboo II
has the most. The Dare
falls in between with what our team feels is the ideal amount of puff in insulated ski pants. For truly cold conditions, the Dare
does the job. The Columbia Bugaboo II
would be warmer, but likely unnecessarily so. The Bormio
is insulated just a little more than standard shell pants. In fact, one OGL reviewer, testing "blind" as it were, did not even realize the Bormio Pants
were insulated at all. In short, if you want the warmth of insulation, and want all the other attributes of high-end ski pants, the Spyder Dare
hits the sweet spot.
In insulated ski pants, ventilation is both more important and harder to build in. A skier in insulated ski pants is more likely to overheat and therefore more likely to need ventilation. Constructing vents into insulated ski pants is more difficult because of the drafty nature of zipper placement and the construction issues of additional layers of insulation. The best insulated ski pants would have vents inside and outside of legs. Alas, no pants we tested had this combination of attributes.
The external leg vents of the Spyder Dare
are effective enough, but you can't count on them to truly change the climate control of your pants too much. If you want true modularity and extensive venting options, check out the Top Pick for shell gear Norrona Lofoten Gore-Tex Pro Pants
. The Lofoten Pants
have very long zippers outside of both legs. Additionally, constructing your ski outfit for the lower body in a layering system allows greater adjustment for changing conditions through the day or season.
There is little to note about the style of the tested black Spyder Dare
pants. Black goes with everything and is largely pleasing to the eye. The cut falls in the "middle of the road" and is not too tight nor too baggy. As insulated ski pants, the Dare
doesn't appear any bulkier than the shell options we tested.
Our one complaint is that the Dare
only comes in black. In a review in which the other products come in at least two and up to nine color options, the lack of choice for this contender is a little limiting. The color choice winners in our test are The North Face Freedom Pants
with nine options, and the Norrona Lofoten Pants
in six colors. Even the boutique FlyLow Baker Bibs
come in two color choices.
The Spyder Dare pants and Leader Jacket. the mismatched grey colors still work together.
The Spyder Dare
is our features category winner. Of the five things we look for in ski pants, the Spyder has four. Only the Arc'teryx Sabre
Both the Dare
and the Sabre
have warm fuzzy hand warmer pockets and a key clip in one pocket. The Spyder Dare
has five total pockets, while the Arc'teryx Sabre
only has three. The Dare
pants can be attached to a matching jacket, but the Sabre
cannot, while the Sabre
has a Recco reflector built in and the Dare
does not. Overall, we'd say these two roughly close to tied for the top spot. With Recco reflector functionality somewhat limited, especially in day-to-day use, we give a slight edge in terms of features score to the Dare
When using the Spyder Dare pants with a Spyder jacket (in this case, the Spyder Leader), the two can be snapped together to help the powder skirt keep out the weather.
For the coldest skiers or those riding the chilliest climates (think Lake Louise and Jay Peak), insulated ski pants have their place. For the rest of the population, uninsulated pants with long underwear should be the default. If you fall into the segment of the population who can truly use insulated pants, we do not hesitate to recommend the Spyder Dare
. For a more budget-minded alternative, perhaps as a second pair of pants for the coldest conditions, check out the Columbia Bugaboo II Pants
. For a compromise between the versatility of shell pants with a little insulation, many will dig the Mammut Bormio
Among the non-Best Buy award winners, the Spyder Dare
is the least expensive. For this niche, it is is an excellent value. If you need insulated ski pants, and need them to last and function well, the Dare
is a great choice.
We dig these ski pants. Not all users need insulated ski pants, but for those that do, we recommend these award winners. There are cheaper alternatives, and there are more lightly insulated alternatives, but the Dare
hits the sweet spot of protection, warmth, comfort, and value. When paired with a Spyder jacket, the combination is stylish and can be snapped together for even greater weather protection. The rear bib of the Spyder Dare
enhances weather protection without compromising comfort for the non-bib fans.